Showing posts with label freaky hybrid trade of the day. Show all posts
Showing posts with label freaky hybrid trade of the day. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Virtual Office, -$285. SPX, +4.90, 1336.20.

Dehtrader, $403 on 3062 shares traded.
Denarii, $116 on 2600 shares traded.
OBAT, $35 on 9400 shares traded.
Timmay, $0 on 2000 shares traded.
Retardo, no trades.
Ainkurn, -$118 on 300 shares traded.
Me, -$721 on 23,400 shares traded.


Holy fucking shit... I just got so hosed on "imbalances" it's unbelievable.

At 3:40 every day, the NYSE publishes imbalances in stocks, that have built up through the day. Today, for example, huge imbalances were published, to the downside.

WMB came out with a -1,337,800 sell imbalance... TGT had a -2,109,700 sell imbalance, FRE had a -3,484,900 sell imbalance... and there were many more.

Now on a normal day, at 3:50 these numbers get adjusted. Normally, they get taken down a bit. So you would expect WMB to still have a sell imbalance, but maybe for 600,000 shares or so. Today, every imbalance SWITCHED at 3:50. Meaning all those massive sells became BUY imbalances. It feels like fraud, but really, what must have happened is that somebody, between 3:40 and 3:50, decided they wanted to buy today's close in a massive way.

Take from that what you will, but let's just say, today's close was not "normal..." there was some big money there, and it wanted to buy stock in the DOW companies. Could it have been the PPT? WSF? We'll probably never know...

But what it means to a "little guy" like me who was playing the imbalances "like a degenerate OTB guy" is that I got fucked.

Anyway, enough about me for now. Even with the excitement of the close, the volume today was awful again on the NYSE. Now, perhaps more and more volume is moving off the exchange... this is possible since the hybrid is still... well... the hybrid. If that's the case, then short NYX. But for all practical trading purposes, it makes things more difficult, because there's often less follow through.

Something was afoot today in the last half of the trading day. While I got smoked, it gives me hope that trading is about to become more active again... we'll see.

UPDATE: INTC up 10% afterhours... seriously, with that close, you gotta wonder who had that news early. I call bullshit on the stock market. Investigate... impeach, whatever...

Friday, November 30, 2007

The NYSE's Hybrid Market Sucks

Fuck you traders! That's what the Hybrid Market is all about.

I go in to buy FED at 3:42 or so, no indication, a 2 cent spread in the quotes and I'm filled over 2 points higher on a print of over 70,000 shares. Next trade is for 600 shares over a point lower.



It's sad and laughable. It's bullshit and they need to fix it. Half my daily profits gone in 2 minutes because their system is a piece of shit.

Wednesday, November 7, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day! FLR!

Yesterday in my daily post, I highlighted how the Hybrid Market has ruined trading in illiquid names like BAP. However, lest you think that the Hybrid Market only wrecks havoc in low volume names, take a gander at this 1 minute chart for FLR today.



Really, is going from $144.50 to $151.50 in 3 minutes an orderly market in a stock that trades millions of shares a day?

Short answer is "no." They Hybrid Market is an abomination on many levels. We're almost at the year anniversary and I can already hear the NYSE getting ready to tout it's success with a big PR bash. However, I still can't find any traders defending this joke of a market. Where's the much promised "price improvement and matching?"

Meanwhile, I made money shorting FLR this morning... so don't go thinking I'm just bitter or something. I just can't stand what has become of the NYSE.

Monday, August 13, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day! LNN!



I mean, yeah, the open is always more volatile, but this shit ain't right!

The stock opened at $44.86 on a 1500 share print. Next trade? 100 shares, over a point higher up at $45.95. So, yes, you're reading that correctly. A big buyer moved in with 100 shares and moved the stock over a point.

Baffling.

In the next 10 minutes, the stock traded a little over 6000 shares and dropped 3 points. Most of these trades were for 100 shares each. In other words, the stock freefalled on no trade volume.

Further, after the stock bottomed out at $42.85, it took only 1000 shares to jolt it back up to $44.48. In fact, that analysis is generous. It took 900 shares to move the stock from $42.85 to $43.55 (absurd in itself) and then 100 shares to move the stock from $43.55 to $44.48 (completely freaky).

So another full point on a 100 share trade.

Gaps in liquidity anyone?

Please, visit Ray's blog and let your voice be heard. If you're an old NYSE trader his site may be the only good outlet for you to voice criticism about the Hybrid and have any hope it's being heard.

Wednesday, August 8, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day! JLL!



My oh my... take a look at that. The stock opened on a print of 12,400 shares at 103.55. Exactly 200 shares later it was trading down over a point. 200 shares move a stock over a point? Let me repeat that... 200 shares moved a stock that trades over a million shares a day a FULL POINT!

C'mon! Fix the damn hybrid market already! That shit just shouldn't happen! Please, let Ray know about this... okay, I'll let him know. But be sure to stop by his site and let him know that traders just don't like this stuff. Really, the only way they're going to fix this stuff is if they hear from you. Please be polite.

Meanwhile, the stock trades straight down 3 points on no volume and then straight back up 3 points on no volume. Why? Ray, can one of your hybrid builders come comment on this and let us know why trades like this are possible? This is not how an orderly market operates.

Runner up, RWT.



Stock trades up over 2 points on no volume at the open and then crashes 2 points 10 minutes later on equally low volume... sigh... Also, check that action after the Fed call yesterday. Movement like that would be good, if it made sense. However, without bids and asks to help guide a trader it's really nothing but a momentum gamble. However people should be encouraged to trade the market, not gamble on it. The Hybrid Market is turning stock trading into a dice roll. Not cool.

FLASH: Erin is lighting Maria up in my new poll...

Thursday, August 2, 2007

Hybrid Market Integrity & The No-Uptick Rule

A very interesting "Stop Trading!" segment on CNBC with Cramer this afternoon.

If you missed it, here were a few key comments.

Erin and Jim spoke about the integrity of the market right now.

Cramer said today is "exactly like October 1987" in that you "cannot trust the prices." Cramer claimed that the market was in "incredible disarray" and that he has been "refusing to trust the quotes" and that it has really effected the "homegamers" because they "haven't been able to trust the pricing this week." Bottom line, he claims we couldn't trust the market in February (when the Dow melted due to a computer glitch) and you can't trust it now.

While they didn't mention the hybrid market outright, Cramer has been railing on it lately and I'm sure this is what he was referring to.

Also, and this pertains to some conversations that we've been having at "the Fly's" blog recently concerning the now dead "uptick rule" Cramer claimed that all of the action in BZH yesterday was due to "bear raids." As he explained, "You can drive any stock down because of the no uptick rule." Erin concurred and stated that the no-uptick rule was "causing a lot of the troubles" of the last week.

Interesting stuff indeed. Perhaps Cramer has been reading this blog. I've been all over the "freaky hybrid trades" from the beginning. It's about time it's getting a little more notice from the main stream media.

Tuesday, July 31, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day, ATB!

This one really pissed me off because I was short and in a matter of 30 seconds, the stock moved a half point on only a thousand shares.



Previous to this wackiness, courtesy of the Hybrid Market, the stock was behaving fine. This is why it's hard to have full confidence in the hybrid... weird stuff comes out of nowhere. Notice after the spike that the stock went right back to where it "should be"... the spike was nothing more than a trade aberration.

Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day, CNH!

Just take a quick look at the graph below.

See that first 15 minutes? That's freaky... and that's the hybrid market for you. There is nothing "orderly" about that market.

That said, it's one of my best stocks on the day, but still... it's hard to trade the market with any type of confidence when there are these wild illiquid moves on 100-share prints.



Go visit Ray over at Exchanges and tell him to tell his "hybrid builders" to fix this stuff. Tell him the Dinosaur sent you, but please be polite.

Perhaps if the NYSE hears from more traders they'll have more incentive to fix trades like this.

Friday, July 13, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day, TNH!

I almost forgot about this.



Why was this freaky? Because it opened at 127.31 at 932:06. Less than a minute and a half later, at 9:33:26 it was trading 6 points lower at 121.58. Most of the volume of this move came on 100 share prints as the stock traded wildly sometimes swinging 50 cents to a point, intra-second!

Ray? C'mon. Can you get those handy-dandy hybrid builders to take a look at this?

Tuesday, June 26, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day

WE HAVE A WINNER!



Should news come out, I'll take back the award... But for now, it just looks like a crazy spike.

Monday, June 25, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day! TNH!



According to my tape, at 12:04:27, TNH traded from 125.92 up to 127.06 in the same SECOND!

Honorable mention today goes to FLR!



The market may be getting faster, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's getting BETTER...

Thursday, June 7, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day! - POT

Sure, it was a block trade, but still!

Wednesday, May 16, 2007

CNH - Freaky Hybrid Trade Of The Day!



It's been awhile since I posted one of these, but I couldn't resist.

Check out that 10 minutes of complete lunacy and disorder between 9:40 and 9:50 this morning. I don't have time to post a detailed analysis of this one (since it's the middle of the day) but I thought some of you might enjoy having a reason to say "Wow"!

Anyway, yet another bearish reversal in the indexes. Let's see if the market can hold on here. If not, we may be in for some (gasp!) down days in the near future!

Monday, April 23, 2007

The crap that drives me nuts and makes me poor



This is the stuff that's doing me in right here.

I saw that on Friday WCC was stabilizing and I thought there would be a little pop off the open as it broke a minor trendline that was in place for the past couple of trading sessions. I put in a buy stop at the trendline and as the stock opened above the line, was filled at the opening price of 62.35. To add to my conviction, the stock was upgraded pre-open.

On the opening print of 23,300 I was the 300. The opening print hit my tape at 9:30:53.

3 seconds and 2200 shares later, the stock is trading 61.86 and I am down a half point or, $150 on my first trade of the day. Thank god I've cut my size... I ask again, absent of not trading the open, how can a trader manage intraday risk in the
Hybrid Market?

Pre Hybrid Market, stuff like this just didn't happen. How could I have avoided this loss?

Ray, from
Hybridtalk, if you're reading, really, WTF?

I just don't know...

Friday, April 13, 2007

LTM, the Freaky Hybrid Trade of the day!

I haven't done this post in a few weeks, but today, I couldn't resist. Just look at this crap...



I'm focusing on the trading between 9:50 and 10:35.

At 953:35, the stock trades 100 shares at 50.44. 1300 shares and less than a minute later, the stock is trading 50.13. Almost all of the trading was 100 share prints smacking bids and lifting offers... there was no price correcting by specialists and their "algorithms" to stop the low volume dip in price.

I'm all for fast fills, but back in the day, 1300 shares was a print... a single trade. If a stock was going to drop 30 cents in 30 seconds, it wasn't pushed down by 13, 100 share orders.

Anyway, at 10:00 the stock is back to trading 50.20, but then get this... 2600 shares and 13 seconds later the stock trades 50. WTF?

For the next 25 minutes, the stock calmed down. It traded in a 27 cent range and traded about 14,000 shares. Decent activity. But of course, that couldn't last.

At 10:30:36, 100 shares trades at 49.92 followed by a 100 share trade up at 50.16. 100 shares pushing a stock 24 cents? You have to love a system that allows that to happen.

8 minutes and 14,000 shares later, the stock was up over 50.50. This would be fine if there was some type of "order" to the trade. It's the "airpockets" that exist with the Hybrid Market that make it very difficult to trade. Like the 2 minutes between 10:37 and 10:39 where 2000 shares spiked the stock up 30 cents.

I don't know. I guess you can ask Ray over at Hybridtalk how this type of trade benefits anyone. I can't figure it out myself. The Hybrid Market creates "airpockets" where there is no liquidity. When you hit one of these "airpockets" you get some unpredictable volatilty.

And unpredictable volatility does not breed confidence in a market, that's for sure.

Monday, March 19, 2007

The perfect storm


(To read this post, I suggest tuning into track #50 over on the Forkcast. It's the Black Lips song "Not a problem.")




Anyway, here's the story.



Monday morning, bright-eyed and bushy tailed. AXR reported earnings. They beat on top and bottom line and they are gapping up. The stock has nearly been cut in half in the last 2 months, so I figure, "Why not give it a whirl?" I figured I'd buy 500 shares at the open and keep a close eye on it. If you read this blog last week, you know it won Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day "honors" on Friday, so I knew what I was getting involved with here. A thin, volatile stock that just released earnings. "So", you might ask, "Dinosaur Trader... knowing this, why would you trade this stock? Your confidence has been down, this stock is nuts... sounds like you could get hurt here."



At this point, I may answer that the dinosaurs went extinct for a reason, they couldn't adapt. That may soon be my fate too if I don't start listening to the voice of reason more. The real answer is that I sniffed opportunity. It's why you make any trade.



I thought I'd buy and it'd trade up rapidly since it'd been so beaten up in recent months. I thought the small float and the thin trade would benefit me, that's why I bought a large position (500 shares is a "large" position in a stock that could move 2 points on 3 or 4 trades) at the open. In my head, I saw the stock gapping up and moving immediately higher. I envisioned panic buying and short covering and I saw me selling 2 or 3 points higher.



The exact opposite happened.



By 10:15 I was nearly down 3 grand and sweating...



Here's what happened. The stock opened and immediately broke lower.



Look at that first 5-minute bar, the stock had a 2.5 point range in the first 5 minutes. It took 30 seconds and only 3300 shares for AXR to move from 87 to 84.50. Almost every trade was a trade for 100 shares and almost every trade smacked the bid. Having a bullish mindset on the stock made it nearly impossible for me to react quickly enough. It's hard to go from bullish to bearish in 30 seconds. Instead, I thought, "well, there's the shakeout and now comes the bounce." I was wrong. I threw in a sell-stop for 200 shares at the new low, or 84.49, and was filled somewhere in the high 83s.



I was still long 300 shares of a stock that was trading straight down.



But still, I was waiting for the "bounce" to tell me it had all just been a bad trade. I put another sell stop in at a new low which at the time was 83.06 and sold a couple hundred more shares at 82.87 and 82.71.



I had 100 shares left and I was down close to $1500. I'd been trading for all of 15 minutes.



Immediately, the stock bounced back up over 83. Convinced that the bottom was in, I bought 400 shares at 83.47. The "high" of that bounce was 83.48... the stock immediately broke 83 again. I sold all of my shares at 82.88 and I was down almost $2000.



It's 9:50. I've managed to lose $100 a minute since I started trading.



The next drop was nauseating but luckily I was out of the stock. But when it traded down to 80 I decided to buy again. I was filled almost a point higher, at 80.93. The stock yo-yoed right back down to 80 and I sold 200 at 80.15 and 100 at 80.02. That was the problem... the old low was 80.01 and I was filled at 80.02. The stock didn't break the old low. So, I bought again... 400 shares at 80.57.



The sellers wanted more blood though.



The stock quickly broke 80. I sold 200 at 79.34. It ripped above 80 again. However, this time I was just happy to get out close to my last buy so I sold my last 200 at 80.34. I was down over $2500 with no more shares in the stock.



My eyes were more or less glazed at this point. I was down $2500, which eclipsed my gains of last week by over $1000. Add these losses to my losses of the week before and I was nearly out of capital. I was expecting a call from the risk manager. I sat staring at the screens watching them blink light blue. The great irony of the morning was that every other stock on my screen except 2 others (I have over 100 stocks on my screens) were green. The market was up almost 100 points. I walked downstairs and made a cup of tea. My wife and I traded insults.



I came back up and saw that the stock was trading between 77 and 78. I bought 300 shares at 77.76 and put a stop in at 77. Miraculously, the stock traded up. I bought 100 more at 78.60 and then quickly sold 100 at 79 and another 100 at 79.04. I got nervous and sold 200 more at 78.74 and 78.68 and I was out of the stock again.



The stock broke lower and then bounced. I bought 200 shares at 78.20. At 10:15, the stock resumed it's dive. I sold 100 shares at 77.11 but then bought 300 more at 77.56. So I was long 400 right before the stock broke 76. I have no idea what my p&l showed at this time, but I was probably into my firm's capital. I'm quite sure that my name was in red on some screen in someone's office and that they were dispassionately discussing my fate.



My 2 year old son was in the next room with my wife. He was screaming at the top of his lungs, "No pants! I don't want my pants on Mommy!" They were getting ready to go to "cooking" class. I stuck my head out my office door. "Would you get his fucking pants on and get the fuck out of the house? I'm down 3 or 4 grand and I'm trying to be calm and you guys are in here screaming and I can't get out of my own fucking way!" I sat down at my desk, and I remember quite clearly, that I was talking to myself and shaking my head but I don't remember what I was saying.



I sold 200 shares at 76.65. A minute later, I bought 200 shares at 75.59, and then 200 at 75.85. The stock seemed to be calming down. I heard the door close as my wife and son left for their class. I bought 200 more shares at 75.71 bringing my position up to 800 shares.



In a few minutes, the stock would spike a couple of points allowing me to release 100 shares at 78, 79, 78.56, and 78.72. Later I would sell more at 78.90, 78.35, 78.20 and 78.39. After all of the drama, I had pared my loss in the stock from over $3000 to just over $100. My p&l stood at $97. I was physically and mentally exhausted.



Now if only I could repair the damage this trade caused to my marriage...



So, when my wife came home I apologized for being a stressed out, red-faced lunatic. She understood, kind of. We spoke and both agreed that maybe I need to get away. So, for the next 2 days while the Fed has their meetings I'm on hiatus.



Cue the Mary Onette's song (#4) "Lost".

And then, hopefully, the Deerhunter song (#29) "Like New".

Friday, March 16, 2007

Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day



Today's "honor" goes to AXR. Yes, it's a thin stock but nonetheless, what happened between 10:23 and 10:31 was freaky. Let's discuss:

In this 8 minutes, the stock traded only 2900 shares on the NYSE but managed to rip almost 2 points. As is usual with the hybrid, there were no bids to indicate strength nor volume... there were just 100 share prints lifting offers and taking the stock up.

Favorite highlight: At 10:30:16, the stock traded 100 shares at 86.72. One second later, the stock trades 100 shares 48 cents higher at 87.20. 100 shares shouldn't move any stock 48 cents in 1 second if you want your market to make any kind of logical sense. But that's just my opinion.

Thursday, March 15, 2007

TNH - The Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day!


As promised, here's what TNH looked like and why it wins freaky hybrid trade of the day honors.

The chart, though inexcusably choppy, doesn't tell the whole story. What's important is how erratically this stock moved on such light volume.

9900 shares moved the stock down 1.5 points in 20 minutes on mostly 100 and 200 share prints. There was never an offer shown to indicate any type of selling pressure. This move was simply 100 share lots smacking 100 share bids and causing the stock to move straight down.

In addition, the quotes were updated over 600 times during this time period, or about once every 2 seconds. An overflow of information but unfortunately, none of it was useful in helping one discern what was happening in the stock or why it was moving down. Remember the art of tape reading? For decades it was a reliable tool on Wall Street, no longer. The hybrid system has killed tape reading.

Trades like this make me and many others doubt the integrity and overall feasibility of the hybrid system. And this is no anomaly. Really, there are literally hundreds of examples of trades like this. And lest you think I'm complaining because I somehow got wrecked in the stock, that's not the case. It was one of my better stocks today. I just happened to be watching it at this time and thought I'd highlight it's craziness.

Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day

I've decided to create a new daily entry into the blog that I am lovingly calling the Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day.

The first stock that I am nominating for this dubious distiction is TNH and the freakiness that associated the trading in this stock today between 9:40 and 10:00am.

I will post a detailed analysis of the freakiness at the end of the day.

If you would like to nominate any stocks for the Freaky Hybrid Trade of the Day "award" please do so by adding a comment.